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		<title>By: SoulSurfer</title>
		<link>http://econnexus.org/a-resource-based-economy/#comment-1468</link>
		<dc:creator>SoulSurfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kevin,

Thanks for your comments.

In my original quote from Jacque Fresco (see above) he said that:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The premise upon which this system is based is that the Earth is abundant with plentiful resource.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In his introduction to &quot;Critical Path&quot; &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckminster_Fuller&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Buckminster Fuller&lt;/a&gt; wrote that:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Those in supreme power politically and economically as of 1980 are as yet convinced that our planet Earth has nowhere near enough life support for all humanity. The supreme political and economic powers as yet assume that it has to be either you or me. Not enough for both.

It no longer has to be you or me. Selfishness is unnecessary and henceforth unrationalizable as mandated by survival. War is obsolete.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why do you think that &quot;obtain[ing] 500 million in population&quot; is &quot;common sense&quot; and a prerequisite for implementing the resource based economy?

Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kevin,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments.</p>
<p>In my original quote from Jacque Fresco (see above) he said that:</p>
<blockquote><p>The premise upon which this system is based is that the Earth is abundant with plentiful resource.</p></blockquote>
<p>In his introduction to &#034;Critical Path&#034; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckminster_Fuller" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Buckminster Fuller</a> wrote that:</p>
<blockquote><p>Those in supreme power politically and economically as of 1980 are as yet convinced that our planet Earth has nowhere near enough life support for all humanity. The supreme political and economic powers as yet assume that it has to be either you or me. Not enough for both.</p>
<p>It no longer has to be you or me. Selfishness is unnecessary and henceforth unrationalizable as mandated by survival. War is obsolete.</p></blockquote>
<p>Why do you think that &#034;obtain[ing] 500 million in population&#034; is &#034;common sense&#034; and a prerequisite for implementing the resource based economy?</p>
<p>Jim</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
		<link>http://econnexus.org/a-resource-based-economy/#comment-1460</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 05:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather sad to see that I didn`t come across this when it first came out. I highly doubt anyone will see what I`ve posted. Too bad, cause Jaques was really onto something there. There was just one obstacle in the way; Human society.  And we have Ron Paul fighting for us yes, but even his ideas could lead to a bit of catastrophe. He wants to eliminate the central bank, which I agree with to a point, but we should do it a bit more strategically. Use them as a motivational force to obtain 500 million in population and the resource based economy. I`ll explain how in the morning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather sad to see that I didn`t come across this when it first came out. I highly doubt anyone will see what I`ve posted. Too bad, cause Jaques was really onto something there. There was just one obstacle in the way; Human society.  And we have Ron Paul fighting for us yes, but even his ideas could lead to a bit of catastrophe. He wants to eliminate the central bank, which I agree with to a point, but we should do it a bit more strategically. Use them as a motivational force to obtain 500 million in population and the resource based economy. I`ll explain how in the morning.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
		<link>http://econnexus.org/a-resource-based-economy/#comment-1459</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 03:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something a group of kind hearted ingenious Christians tried telling us in 1980 with the erection of the Guidestones, but failed to explain the meaning of their paraphrases. I think it`s time we learned what they really meant. Let the truth be exposed.

http://www.wired.com/images/multimedia/magazine/1705/Wired_May_2009_Georgia_Guidestones.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something a group of kind hearted ingenious Christians tried telling us in 1980 with the erection of the Guidestones, but failed to explain the meaning of their paraphrases. I think it`s time we learned what they really meant. Let the truth be exposed.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wired.com/images/multimedia/magazine/1705/Wired_May_2009_Georgia_Guidestones.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.wired.com/images/multimedia/magazine/1705/Wired_May_2009_Georgia_Guidestones.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
		<link>http://econnexus.org/a-resource-based-economy/#comment-1458</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 03:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets talk common sense; If we were able to do the following-
Maintain humanity under 500,000,000
Before you start falsely accusing me of supporting some conspiracy, I want to point out two words, MAINTAIN, and UNDER. Even if you did kill enough people to reach that, how would you MAINTAIN it? Could you do it without killing a soul? Yes, yes you can, and here`s how; Unite as a planet like you point out above. Come to an agreement to only allow 250 million children be born worldwide the next generation. And amongst that generation only allow half to have a single child, before getting fixed. Do the same for the next two generations. That will be 4 generations at 250 million,125 million,62.5 million.and 36.25 million. Grand total of 493 million people.With the exception of a few rare cases, that should be the entire planet.Then phase 2 begins. Allow each couple to have 4 children the next 4 generations, and you`re back where you started.
          There you have it. Then the Venus Project could be implanted worldwide.
        You`ve been told, my mission has been reached, thx.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets talk common sense; If we were able to do the following-<br />
Maintain humanity under 500,000,000<br />
Before you start falsely accusing me of supporting some conspiracy, I want to point out two words, MAINTAIN, and UNDER. Even if you did kill enough people to reach that, how would you MAINTAIN it? Could you do it without killing a soul? Yes, yes you can, and here`s how; Unite as a planet like you point out above. Come to an agreement to only allow 250 million children be born worldwide the next generation. And amongst that generation only allow half to have a single child, before getting fixed. Do the same for the next two generations. That will be 4 generations at 250 million,125 million,62.5 million.and 36.25 million. Grand total of 493 million people.With the exception of a few rare cases, that should be the entire planet.Then phase 2 begins. Allow each couple to have 4 children the next 4 generations, and you`re back where you started.<br />
          There you have it. Then the Venus Project could be implanted worldwide.<br />
        You`ve been told, my mission has been reached, thx.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lochner</title>
		<link>http://econnexus.org/a-resource-based-economy/#comment-484</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Lochner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dorthe Nielsen.  It is the close minded and hopefulness of the imaginary that aids in peoples fears of a better future which requires change.  If a person whole heartedly believed the movie &quot;Matrix&quot; was real, years after the actors passed away, would that person sound any more idiotic than a Christian today?  No, you fail to recognize the laws of nature by saying that god can overcome them.  When you die and your eyeballs biodegrade, you can&#039;t use them to see anymore.  That goes with every function of a human being, including consciousness meaning that you can hope for a Utopia after death, but when you die and can&#039;t prove the existence of heaven or your beliefs, realistic and rational people can help bring about an as close to an Utopia as we can.
Keep hoping for the impossible and you are about as helpful as anyone who refuses to be employed now and take advantage of gov&#039;t programs even though they are capable of working.
Keep spreading your terroristic threats to convince people to join your cult (be with us or be sent to hell) and you will find that not only did you aid in the destruction of humanity, but you did so with your own desire to not educate yourself with facts and instead rely on make believe to solve the world&#039;s problems.

Essentially, your argument as uninspiring as it is, is to not change the world through human technological means, but to deal with the suffering today to enjoy heaven tomorrow.  If you really feel that spiteful towards technology helping humanity, then get rid of your computer and head back to the days when working was done 7 days a week from sun up to sun down and then tell me that technology hasn&#039;t helped and shouldn&#039;t help humanity in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dorthe Nielsen.  It is the close minded and hopefulness of the imaginary that aids in peoples fears of a better future which requires change.  If a person whole heartedly believed the movie &#034;Matrix&#034; was real, years after the actors passed away, would that person sound any more idiotic than a Christian today?  No, you fail to recognize the laws of nature by saying that god can overcome them.  When you die and your eyeballs biodegrade, you can&#039;t use them to see anymore.  That goes with every function of a human being, including consciousness meaning that you can hope for a Utopia after death, but when you die and can&#039;t prove the existence of heaven or your beliefs, realistic and rational people can help bring about an as close to an Utopia as we can.<br />
Keep hoping for the impossible and you are about as helpful as anyone who refuses to be employed now and take advantage of gov&#039;t programs even though they are capable of working.<br />
Keep spreading your terroristic threats to convince people to join your cult (be with us or be sent to hell) and you will find that not only did you aid in the destruction of humanity, but you did so with your own desire to not educate yourself with facts and instead rely on make believe to solve the world&#039;s problems.</p>
<p>Essentially, your argument as uninspiring as it is, is to not change the world through human technological means, but to deal with the suffering today to enjoy heaven tomorrow.  If you really feel that spiteful towards technology helping humanity, then get rid of your computer and head back to the days when working was done 7 days a week from sun up to sun down and then tell me that technology hasn&#039;t helped and shouldn&#039;t help humanity in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Dorthe Nielsen</title>
		<link>http://econnexus.org/a-resource-based-economy/#comment-411</link>
		<dc:creator>Dorthe Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 11:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find your point of views interesting and read it with an open mind too.   I do agree that this Jaques Frescoe is blessed with an expanded brain - and havn&#039;t we been told that most of us only benefits from 90 % og ours.   
I strongly believe that persons mentioned in your comment like Einstein and Plato had much greater visions than they were able to benefit from in their own limited time on earth.
Soeren Kierkegaard was a philosofer that also shared thoughts that his own generation called crazy - he spoke forth ideas and truths that the comming generations graped.
I believe that human kind are created for eternal existing - created by an unlimited maker of the whole universe.
I believe that we&#039;re living in a momentarely timeframe here on earth.   We have indeed fallen out of the umlimited relationship with the creator - and we come to short with the lot of phantastic ideas we&#039;re able to figure out in our visions thanks to our brain.
YES WE CAN build up a truly phantastic society - but never can we agree - always the Kain &amp; Abel syndrom to disturb.
YES WE CAN build up arcitectur and tecnology like the one Jaques Frescoe shows in his movie - theroticaly!
Once we could even build a mighty high tower in Babylon hungry after paying a visit to the creator of the world.   
If we just hosted a godly nature all unselfish and reightious in our mortal body - WE truly could have been omnipotent - just like our creator.
BUT isn&#039;t it just sad - we always want all that to happen parallel to the Kingdom of God - without Him. Like Kain envied Abel - mankind envy the Creator and try to put Him away - to our own dead and perdition.
In the Bible He revealed Himself and He even expanded mankinds vision to have faith in Him and trust that in His house everything are possible and a much more wonderful unlimited and new world.
ONLY ONE thing departs mankind from the godly relationship -
THE SIN - the selfishnes, stubbornes and envy.
Jesus Christ - the Son of  the living God became on of us - He is the only one who obeyed the creator. Unselfish and full of mercy, rightiousnes and love He stood up against the evil one. By the grace of God we can be born of the same spirit who ruled and reigned in the heart of Lord Jesus.
Read all the 4 gospels on NT - and you&#039;ll come to know and understand that we really have no other choise and hope of a better world, than to recieve foregivness, a new character and
the same nature that lives in the Son of God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find your point of views interesting and read it with an open mind too.   I do agree that this Jaques Frescoe is blessed with an expanded brain &#8211; and havn&#039;t we been told that most of us only benefits from 90 % og ours.<br />
I strongly believe that persons mentioned in your comment like Einstein and Plato had much greater visions than they were able to benefit from in their own limited time on earth.<br />
Soeren Kierkegaard was a philosofer that also shared thoughts that his own generation called crazy &#8211; he spoke forth ideas and truths that the comming generations graped.<br />
I believe that human kind are created for eternal existing &#8211; created by an unlimited maker of the whole universe.<br />
I believe that we&#039;re living in a momentarely timeframe here on earth.   We have indeed fallen out of the umlimited relationship with the creator &#8211; and we come to short with the lot of phantastic ideas we&#039;re able to figure out in our visions thanks to our brain.<br />
YES WE CAN build up a truly phantastic society &#8211; but never can we agree &#8211; always the Kain &amp; Abel syndrom to disturb.<br />
YES WE CAN build up arcitectur and tecnology like the one Jaques Frescoe shows in his movie &#8211; theroticaly!<br />
Once we could even build a mighty high tower in Babylon hungry after paying a visit to the creator of the world.<br />
If we just hosted a godly nature all unselfish and reightious in our mortal body &#8211; WE truly could have been omnipotent &#8211; just like our creator.<br />
BUT isn&#039;t it just sad &#8211; we always want all that to happen parallel to the Kingdom of God &#8211; without Him. Like Kain envied Abel &#8211; mankind envy the Creator and try to put Him away &#8211; to our own dead and perdition.<br />
In the Bible He revealed Himself and He even expanded mankinds vision to have faith in Him and trust that in His house everything are possible and a much more wonderful unlimited and new world.<br />
ONLY ONE thing departs mankind from the godly relationship -<br />
THE SIN &#8211; the selfishnes, stubbornes and envy.<br />
Jesus Christ &#8211; the Son of  the living God became on of us &#8211; He is the only one who obeyed the creator. Unselfish and full of mercy, rightiousnes and love He stood up against the evil one. By the grace of God we can be born of the same spirit who ruled and reigned in the heart of Lord Jesus.<br />
Read all the 4 gospels on NT &#8211; and you&#039;ll come to know and understand that we really have no other choise and hope of a better world, than to recieve foregivness, a new character and<br />
the same nature that lives in the Son of God.</p>
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		<title>By: Kumaran Sanmugathasan</title>
		<link>http://econnexus.org/a-resource-based-economy/#comment-247</link>
		<dc:creator>Kumaran Sanmugathasan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 04:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Jacques ideas are great. A resource based economy where there are no wars and people adopt new technologies such as free energy and UFO type technologies. These type of technologies are presently not adopted because some companies would lose money and the economy would collapse. But free energy tech would be adopted in a resource based economy. I think Jacque Frescoe is a genius. I totally support him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Jacques ideas are great. A resource based economy where there are no wars and people adopt new technologies such as free energy and UFO type technologies. These type of technologies are presently not adopted because some companies would lose money and the economy would collapse. But free energy tech would be adopted in a resource based economy. I think Jacque Frescoe is a genius. I totally support him.</p>
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		<title>By: johnnyfreedom</title>
		<link>http://econnexus.org/a-resource-based-economy/#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator>johnnyfreedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 04:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Understanding the Difference between a Free Market ( Capitalistic) vs. a Resource Based Society.

Attached is a graph showing the difference between free market (Capitalism) and a resource based society.

Assume Product A represents all producible goods and services and Product B represents Energy.

We currently live in a society which is at point X on the graph (Inefficient use of resources, as corporations and governments create scarcity in the market to keep prices high.)

Points A,B and C represent true free market (capitalism) assuming every corporation and government where a non-profit organization in our society.

Point Y represents us achieving The Venus Project through higher efficiencies.

Switch to a Resource Based society, reduce your electric consumption with Energy Efficient products and Alternative Energy.

http://www.investopedia.com/university/economics/economics2.asp

So we have a choice, we can either be an electricity consumer or a electricity producer. We need to work as a T.E.A.M. - Together Everyone Achieves More.

Together we will make the Venus Project a Reality

Sincerely,

Johnny Freedom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Understanding the Difference between a Free Market ( Capitalistic) vs. a Resource Based Society.</p>
<p>Attached is a graph showing the difference between free market (Capitalism) and a resource based society.</p>
<p>Assume Product A represents all producible goods and services and Product B represents Energy.</p>
<p>We currently live in a society which is at point X on the graph (Inefficient use of resources, as corporations and governments create scarcity in the market to keep prices high.)</p>
<p>Points A,B and C represent true free market (capitalism) assuming every corporation and government where a non-profit organization in our society.</p>
<p>Point Y represents us achieving The Venus Project through higher efficiencies.</p>
<p>Switch to a Resource Based society, reduce your electric consumption with Energy Efficient products and Alternative Energy.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.investopedia.com/university/economics/economics2.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.investopedia.com/university/economics/economics2.asp</a></p>
<p>So we have a choice, we can either be an electricity consumer or a electricity producer. We need to work as a T.E.A.M. &#8211; Together Everyone Achieves More.</p>
<p>Together we will make the Venus Project a Reality</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Johnny Freedom</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://econnexus.org/a-resource-based-economy/#comment-209</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just recently found out about the Venus Project and have to say saddens me. All the comments from above supporting the theory are true, and considering that we believe our civilisation is the most advanced of all while we live in a system that has been thought out centuries ago and has hardly changed except for technological inovation should be confusing to much more people.

I would like to add a frase to the one above which Albert Einstein said himself:

 „Die Welt wird nicht bedroht von den Menschen, die böse sind, sondern von denen, die das Böse zulassen.“  
(&quot;The world is not threatened by people who are evil, but from those who allow the evil.&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just recently found out about the Venus Project and have to say saddens me. All the comments from above supporting the theory are true, and considering that we believe our civilisation is the most advanced of all while we live in a system that has been thought out centuries ago and has hardly changed except for technological inovation should be confusing to much more people.</p>
<p>I would like to add a frase to the one above which Albert Einstein said himself:</p>
<p> „Die Welt wird nicht bedroht von den Menschen, die böse sind, sondern von denen, die das Böse zulassen.“<br />
(&#034;The world is not threatened by people who are evil, but from those who allow the evil.&#034;)</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Kelly</title>
		<link>http://econnexus.org/a-resource-based-economy/#comment-203</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would just like to encourage everyone who blogged in SUPPORT of the Venus Project. It starts with you. Keep conversting,keep blogging, tell your families, tellyour friends, spread the word! The great inventors of the past were not concerned with directly profiting from thier inventions, instead they sought to improve the conditions of the world in which they lived.

&quot;All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing&quot;
- Edmund Burke

Be encouraged
-Alex Kelly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would just like to encourage everyone who blogged in SUPPORT of the Venus Project. It starts with you. Keep conversting,keep blogging, tell your families, tellyour friends, spread the word! The great inventors of the past were not concerned with directly profiting from thier inventions, instead they sought to improve the conditions of the world in which they lived.</p>
<p>&#034;All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing&#034;<br />
- Edmund Burke</p>
<p>Be encouraged<br />
-Alex Kelly</p>
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